Re: completely A.I. generated songs with singing are here (Udio)

you use keyboard and a mouse, precisely the same tools you use to interact with the AI

Yes, and? It has nothing to do with my initial point. Go back and read so you get the proper perspective.

So why all the fuss?

I see. When bones posts in a thread, it's to make conversation, learn and grow etc etc.
When everyone else makes posts, it's a "fuss".
Noted.

AI might be the tool that creates the song but there is always a creative/artistic person wielding their keyboard, creating the prompts to realise their vision for the piece.

There's a big difference between AI creating the song using prompts you typed in versus creating a song using human abilities ie hearing a melody as an idea and playing it out. That is the initial point.
A monkey can type a prompt and tell AI to create a rock song. But it takes certain human abilities to bring to fruition a mental idea that is musical.

I think anyone reading this discussion would see quite plainly that it's you who has the problem.

Oh ok, so now bones speaks for everyone because everyone loves bones. Sure.
No problem on my end, just an opinion. As usual, bones thinks everyone elses opinions are bullshit and rubbish. Why all the fuss over my opinion bones?

You think that what you have is somehow special

Oh ok. Thanks for notifying me of how I think.

and it irks you that a computer program can do it better than you can.

There are humans that do it better than I can but that doesn't stop me from being a musician. I write what I like and thank God that I can actually do it.

Get over yourself, you are not special in any way.

But you just said I think what I have is special so how can i possibly get over myself?

Yes, I'm sure your target market is 40 year old nerds who still live in their mother's basements.

Aaw....did i hurt your feelings bones? There's nothing to be ashamed about being a 60 year old virgin. You just might qualify to give birth to the second coming of Jesus.

You do understand that my bandmate spends about 6 hours a day in front of various AI interfaces, right? That the videoclip for our current single was made by him, using AI, right? And that it was his work with the Eleven Labs AI that got the vocals done for one of the other songs on our current album, right?

Yeah yeah typical bones plugging the band. Anyhow, a vocal track and video clips doesn't mean AI created the songs. Your band mate made the music, not AI. So yes, he is the talented one and you're the groupie.

Can you hear yourself?

Not at the moment. I'm typing (obviously).

Because typing can be every bit as creative as playing an instrument. In fact, the vast majority of people who play an instrument aren't creative at all. They just learn how to play a few favourite things by rote and that's as far as they take it.

So playing a few favorite things on an instrument is not creative but typing is? If you say so.
If someone types in notes on a piano roll to create sequences, well then I can accept that as being creative because they are in control of piecing the music. That's creativity. But typing in, "Alexa. Please make a bananarama bass line using Bob Dylan's voice", sorry but that's not making the actual music.
It's like DJing, 99% of DJs don't make the music, they play the music.

How do you think you create apps, if not by typing text onto a screen?

I'm quite aware of that thank you very much. A programmer designing an app HAS TO type code on a screen to create an idea. Musicians do not.
It's getting redundant here but as I stated, typing prompts for AI to create the song does not mean you made or created the actual music.
A programmer creating an app types just like any joe blow typing prompts for AI to do all the creative output but I consider the former actually creating while the latter is not.
That doesn't mean that one cannot create music using AI btw. You can, but i don't consider subscribing to some online toy and typing in mumbo jumbo as actually making a song.

Right but did calculators put any mathematicians out of work? No, they didn't. This won't, either.

Who said anything about AI putting musicians out of work?

Try using AI, you might be able to create something you are proud to share.

I already stated I'd be interested in AI for voice conversion. And I don't need to put links to ny music in my sig or make shameless seld promotion threads to feel any worth.
I know what I'm capable of, damn proud of it, and that's good enough for me.

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